Be Open, Stay Grounded with Laurence Sevy
In this episode of Good Enough for Now, we chat with interior designer Laurence Sevy about how she has managed to stay true to herself as she navigates living, working, and raising a child as a Non-Jewish Parisian in Tel Aviv.
Her various passions in design, spirituality, and mindfulness culminated in her opening Quietly, an interior design and event styling studio serving other tranquility seekers.
Tune in to hear her discuss the identity crisis that ensued after she became a mother, why she eventually decided against converting to Judaism, and how she’s been able to reconcile the conflicting parts of her individuality throughout it all.
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Here are three reasons why you should listen to this episode:
Learn how to stay true to your identity in a different culture
Witness the power that follows having an open mindset and approach on life
Discover how to reconcile the disparate parts of your identity after becoming a parent
Highlights
Originally from Paris, Laurence spent her time between France and England after graduating from art school in London. We catch up with her in her current home in Tel Aviv, where she’s been living for the past five and a half years.
Though she loved the culture and energy of Tel Aviv, it took her a while to find her tribe and community. It wasn’t after she began connecting with people in the same life stage as her that it really started feeling like home.
It took me a while to connect to people. I mean, I think what was happening for me here is that I'm surrounded by a lot of Jewish people. I'm not Jewish… I grew up with different habits, different ways of life, I guess, different references.
Finding people at the same stage of life who either have children or even if they don't, who at least are my age and have the same context––that's where you feel you belong.
After she became a mother, the difficulties of living in another culture became pronounced.
I feel that the real shift and the real identity crisis came when I became a mother it wasn't just about me. And there was a time there was a little bit of a competition within me. Like I wouldn't want [my daughter] to be more Israeli than French or more Jewish than agnostic. And I think I had to make my peace with that because there was some fighting happening inside of me for a while.
When she first got married, Laurence contemplated converting to Judaism because it was important for her husband–whose ancestors were Holocaust survivors–to carry the tradition forward and have Jewish children.
Because I wasn't Jewish, I couldn't have a visa, so we considered converting. Not only because I wanted to stay, but I felt like it was the right thing to do.
But as the years went by and Laurence became more entrenched in Israeli culture, she eventually decided against converting in order to stay true to herself.
I felt like I was already giving a lot and I just didn't feel right anymore to give that much more. And so we converted our child and we'll convert our other children if we do because it's important for my husband to carry on the tradition and I respect that. But just, to me, that would've taken me one step further away from my identity.
At her core, Laurence is impulsive and energized by her independent nature. The responsibilities of motherhood can be at odds with this part of her identity, and she meets this friction by pushing deeper into her relationships.
I'm super excited by change. I'm super excited by new beginnings. And basically what happened when I became a mother and I realized I couldn't do that anymore-- after the mourning period of like, okay, this is it. And I can't have that freedom that I was used to. There was a lot of friction there internally. I had to find another way to cope, I actually realized that I had to go in deeper to find that sort of freedom. There's something liberating in acceptance.
As Laurance navigated her shifting identity as a mother in a new culture, she also embraced her own spiritual wellness journey. It pushed her to lean out of self-judgment and embrace the things that truly ground her: creating spaces of tranquility.
Design and interiors have been the one red line throughout my entire life. I mean, I was four years old when I was looking through magazines and my mom was telling me, oh, you know, this is a job. You can be a stylist when you grow up.
It took me a long time to realize what made me joyful and happy and grounded. And that was the beginning of the business. I didn't know it at the time, but it's important for me to not just say it, but also live it, to infuse it in my business and also to help others, maybe find a glimpse of that, you know, through the home.
What Good Enough For Now means to Laurence:
It makes me think of Don Miguel Ruiz, who’s one of my favorite authors. Do your best. Just do your best. If you do your best, you can't be disappointed.
ABOUT
An interiors stylist and design writer since 2004, Laurence Pasquier-Sevy spent the majority of her life and career between Paris and London, before choosing Tel Aviv for her new adventures. With an in-depth knowledge of lifestyle and interior trends she has collaborated with some of the leading trend forecasting platforms, from Nelly Rodi to WGSN and Stylus, and has spoken at influential design events globally. She has art-directed projects for brands such as Designers Guild, Pierre Frey or Svarowski, and her work has been published in Homes & Garden, Elle Decoration, Ideat, and Milk Decoration, among other publications.
Her manifold passions in design, spirituality, and mindfulness culminated in her opening Quietly, an interior design and event styling studio serving other tranquility seekers.
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Stephanie (01:35):
Yes. Today we're talking to Laurence Sevy her story is very compelling. She talks a lot about how she found her place in the world, what it's like to raise a daughter in a predominantly Jewish country when she's not Jewish herself. And also where Hebrew, the language that's primarily spoken is not her native language. She is. She also talks to us about how she's then taking on a new business in that new environment and her business is about creating inner calm in your home, which clearly is something that she's finding <laugh>, she's navigating this change. So let's get into it.
Harper (02:13):
We wanted to give you a heads up that the sound quality of this episode isn't the best, but the conversation with Lauren is so good that we really wanted to share it with you anyway. Well, we aim to create the highest quality content. There's sometimes a technology just isn't on our side. We apologize in advance and hope you enjoy the episode and Lauren's story, An interior stylist and design writer. Since 2004, Lauren Sevy spent the majority of her life and career between Paris and London before choosing Tel Aviv for her new adventures with an in depth knowledge of lifestyle and interior trends, Lauren has collaborated with leading trend forecasting platforms and has spoken at influential design events globally. She has art directed projects for brands such as Designers Guild, Pierre Frey and Swarovski. Her work has been published in Homes and Gardens, Elle Decor IDeate and Milk decoration. She currently runs Quietly, an interior design and event styling studio serving other tranquility seekers. Welcome Laurence Sevy.
Laurence (03:19):
Hi. I'm very happy to be here.
Harper (03:21):
Can you tell us a little bit about where you are on your life right now?
Laurence (03:26):
Okay. I'm a new mother. I would say still new, two and half years. It's been quite a change. And I run my business, which is an interior design practice.
Harper (03:39):
I love it. So let's go backwards a little bit. You're originally from Paris, you've lived in London and now you live in Tel Aviv. Can you tell a little bit about the transitions that led you of those and where you now?
Laurence (03:54):
I was always attracted to speaking a foreign language, living in a foreign country. So when I was 21, I applied art school in London, as soon as I finished my studies in France. And I got into the school that I wanted, so I moved to London to study. And that's what started the whole thing, and I have been hopping all over the place ever since. <laugh> Tel Aviv was a really, really different step I would say.
Stephanie (04:29):
Tell us more about that.
Laurence (04:30):
Yeah, I had a cycle of London, Paris, London, Paris, London, Paris. It was like, you know, London was two hours away from Paris so I was never really far from home and it was always like very manageable. Tel Aviv is much further and it's a very different culture.
Stephanie (04:50):
So what did you expect and what have you found?
Laurence (04:55):
Wow, you know what? I expected fun and I think I sounds fun.
Stephanie (05:01):
<laugh>.
Laurence (05:02):
I think moving here, I didn't want anything more than I needed a change in my life. I was at a point in my career where I wanted continue doing the same thing. It was the only time in my life that I was working as an employee for a big company. Any other time my life, I've always been freelancing or business and sovi. I was gonna go travel for a bit and take a break and then I came here and loved it and I met my husband. We had a lot of fun <laugh> and I stayed. I mean, you know <laugh>
Stephanie (05:51):
So you got the fun part and a husband.
Laurence (05:53):
Yeah, wild. And
Harper (05:55):
You're still having fun. I can can guarantee that based on our experiences together. I know that that still exists. Yeah. Maybe not the same sort of fun as pre-child and pre-marriage, but I'm interested to hear how you have found community in each of the different places you've lived and the different transitions you've been through. I remember a few months ago you posting in a Facebook group looking for a community of people from France and or London to find your people that you sort of hadn't found your people in Tel Aviv as much as the friends. Can you speak to that a little bit?
Laurence (06:33):
Yeah. When you move, making real bonds takes a long time. I mean, in London when I started there I was a student so I guess that was a very different scenario because my friends from then are still some of my best friends today. You know, you move because you're studying or you're working straight away. You've got that social dynamic happening, you know, it's being laid for you. When I moved here it was very different cause as I said, I moved on my own. Like I just came here for a few for a holiday. It took me a, to really connect to people. I mean, I think what was happening for me here is that I'm surrounded by a lot of Jewish people, I'm not Jewish. And so there was a little bit of a disconnect here, however interested as I am. But it's just still, I grew up with different habits, different ways of life, I guess different references. And also my husband is American and that's another culture that I'm obviously less familiar with. So it took a while but after five years I realized I was missing some French connection. And it'd be nice to find some girlfriends who knew the cartoons watching as a kid, grew up with the same advert or we were watching the same stupid drama on tv. You know, whatever those things where you don't need words, you just know. And also it's, it's nice to speak your own language as much as I wanted to speak English and to travel and all that, it's like there's something very homey about being able to just speak your true voice. I guess
Stephanie (08:26):
What you just described brings up the word context for me, looking for context, something that feels familiar in a new place. And when you were talking about maybe your twenties or at university, a lot of those places to find common ground were already sort of set up for you. How much do you think, I mean sure there's cultural, language differences from moving to a new place, but how much of what you found missing do you think had to do with your life stage?
Laurence (09:06):
It's a very good question and one I actually ask myself a lot. Because I think another path of finding that community that we're talking about for me was finding people here that were in the same stage of life as me. Because what happened is that for a good few years when I got here, by the way, I've been living for five and half years and I'd say it's really been one year that I truly feel I'm home. Even though I, I loved it the entire time. You know, it's not like, but feel like I've arrived in some way. A lot of it has been also to surround myself with people in the same stage of life because for a few years a lot of my friends were friends of my husband and he's five years younger than me. So even the girlfriends that I made through him were a little bit younger and then maybe some of their girlfriend were a little bit younger too. So I have a lot of people in their early thiries around me and as much as I love them, I do realize that the conversations that I need to have, I can't have with them. They support me in all sorts of ways and together and there's great connection, but finding people at the same of life who have children or even if they don't who at least are my age and have the same context. That's where you feel you are.
Harper (10:36):
What's so interesting about this is you found yourself in Tel Aviv. It's not like your husband was there and you were going there because he was there. You didn't know him yet. No. You chose to go to Tel Aviv on your own and to live there. So what were those first few years like for you as you were getting acclimated and why do you think it took so long for you to get to this last year of going, okay, this is where I live, this is what feels like home. I know personally from being your friend, you know some of the challenges that you face and will continue to face, but what did it feel like to be there and go okay, this is where I'm living and now that I have a husband and a child, this is where we live.
Laurence (11:17):
That's something maybe I need to mention, is that I chose to move to Tel Aviv. It was a very strong pull. Hmm. I mean first of all there was a messenger, I call him the messenger. There was a young, I say young cause he was 10 years younger than me at the time, probably even more young Israeli that I met <laugh> when I was traveling in Sri Lanka actually. And that's what already like kind of woke up an interest in, you know, visiting Israel and visiting Tel Aviv. So that's what happened. I came for weekend and visited this friend, for lack of a better word, and fell in love with the city straight away. I remember being sitting at the beach bar and saying I could live here, this is pretty much what I've been looking for my entire life. Always used to say if London was on the best city in the world. But Tel Aviv is on the, beach, and it's a city. You have the culture, you have like, the buzz. But it's also on the beach so you have the chill. So I fell in love with that straight away.
Laurence (12:33):
So basically I came of my own accord but like there was a very strong pull of our adventure. I wanted to leave the grey of Paris and I wanted to the sun. So it's like I didn't know my husband, I didn't have family here, I didn't have friends, but it felt super right to be here and I guess it makes sense if I put it in context , I am someone who is impulsive, I'm an Aires full on.When I have something in my head, I go for it. I follow my gut and the gut at the time was pointing to Tel Aviv so it wasn't very thought through. And to be honest, as soon as I arrived I met a ton of people, including my now husband. Met him very early on. We were friends at the beginning so we had this group friends, it was so much fun. And then work because what I do is niche, a lot of interest in what I freelancing straight away. Basically I hit the ground running. I got into this whirlwind of great stuff happening for me and then I stayed, and I stayed and I a stayed.
Laurence (13:54):
And then when I got together with my husband and we decided that it was serious and we started taking the steps together towards immigration for me and like finding a visa and all of that, then it became real. Basically the fun was a bit gone already because you're there, you're there, the excitement of the beginning has sort of passed. And then you have the day to day and you have the reality of actually living in a country in the Middle East, bureaucracy and hot weather and all different things. And I think I had to go from that excited state to normal real, and it's not all rosy, and get to a place to how do I make this real, take it into my advantage.
Stephanie (14:54):
Well and it seems too like there was a progression for you, you know, going from connecting to place, being interested in it, going for it, which I love that you just went for it and then meeting your husband and starting to get your feet on the ground literally and figuratively. Right. So how did you see your identity as who you are shift across those chapters and how are you showing up integrating all of those experiences now?
Laurence (15:35):
I feel that the real shift and the real identity crisis came when I became a mother because I've been in multicultural relationships a lot throughout my life. Mostly with British men. But my husband is Israeli American, it's slightly different. So yes, for sure the Jewish aspect was also different. But really what created the identity crisis for me was having a child that is growing up in another culture that I bringing up in a country who was very different approach to many things. You know, there's education, there's language, even like, you know, the army. So yeah, all of a sudden it wasn't just about me and it, there was a time, there was a little bit of a competition within me. Like I wouldn't want her to be more Israeli than French or more Jewish than agnostic. And I think I had to make my peace with that because there was some fighting happening inside of me for a while. You know, it's a mm-hmm <affirmative> like if I give too, you know, is it that's where my own identity became challenged in a way it wasn't even about. But um, who am I now?
Stephanie (17:00):
And were you surprised to be faced with those questions? Was that something you anticipated or was it, Oh wait, I have to figure this out.
Laurence (17:10):
No, surprisingly I was surprised. Like I said I made those steps without thinking and then I'm like, oh hang on
Stephanie (17:19):
<laugh>
Laurence (17:20):
The thinking comes after.
Stephanie (17:22):
Wait a minute. Yeah. <laugh>,
Harper (17:25):
I know that there were a lot of conversations around you deciding against converting to Judaism and I know that a lot of that surrounded, you know, becoming a mother. Can you talk about that experience and to Stephanie's point, how that relates to your identity and wanting to stay true to you?
Laurence (17:43):
Yes. I can tell you why I initially thought I wanted to. So like I said, when I came to Israel it was a very, very strong attraction and really was like a pull, that's why I was referring to this boy as the messesnger, that then ever since I said here has right not saying there hasn't been challenges but it felt like I'm meant also mean two years before I moved here, had a session with a medium, someone who works with energies. As she was pulling cards for me and someone I, I really trust and she's told me a lot of very fascinating and on point things through the years. She told me you're gonna someone, you're going to move in the sun, I see some sun, the, you're gonna move somewhere sunny and it's gonna be someone younger but he's gonna be very mature, very much emotionally mature. And at the time I was like, no, I love Paris. I'm not moving to what country, what sun? Anyway, so when all of these things happen and then when I met my husband I like as I said, we were friends for a very long time and one day I had epiphany looked at him and I was like, this is my husband we'd been to, we'd been like friends having fun for like three months.
Laurence (19:20):
He introduced me to everyone I knew in Tel Aviv, he was like my closest friend then. And then I looked at him like this is my husband, and everything happened like super organically, super. Everything's just felt totally right. So there was kinda a dimension of like this is meant to be. So at the very beginning because I wasn't Jewish, I couldn't have a visa. So I considered converting not only because I wanted to but felt like it was the right thing for me to do. And then as I spent my first besa here since when I met my then boyfriend's parents, it was a bit uncomfortable for me not to be Jewish actually. Cause I was like ok, I know you don't mind but what about, and my husband's four grandparents are holocaust survivors. So I knew even if there was no question of religion at all, like our family's not religious, all I knew that the tradition ran really strong.
Laurence (20:22):
So I asked him, one night if it was important for him to have Jewish babies and he started crying, and he said yes. And he said he actually hadn't realized it until like we got together how important it was for him. He always thought he didn't care. But then you know, when push comes to shove, he realize that like yeah it's uh, so at the time I'm like okay, if it's important to then I'll convert, the Language learning to work here, there have been challenges of course, like I said in the visa, the bureaucracy, it wasn't easy as it was in the beginning. You know, there probably two, three years where it, and basically what's happened is that during that moment I felt like I was already giving a lot and I just didn't feel right anymore to give that much more. And so we converted our child and we'll convert our other children if we do becasue it's important for my husband to carry on the tradition and I respect that. But for me, that would've taken me one step further away from my identity.
Stephanie (21:49):
Right. Yeah. It's so interesting talking about it, you know, you're living somewhere where the religious and cultural identity are so closely tied. Yeah. And I think even in America we think of moves, you know, in the last couple years there have been a lot of people who have moved from perhaps the east coast to the Midwest or to the South from the Northeast or you know, another western state from California. I think it's so interesting because even though there are not these very obvious differences like there is moving to a place like Israel with a religious and cultural identity, there are so many cultural identities throughout one country here in the US Yeah. And I think that surprises a lot of people sometimes. And so going back to what you sort of were willing and not willing to compromise, how do you see that blending for you going forward?
Laurence (22:54):
The one thing that comes to mind is uh, you mentioned context. It's a little bit like, you know there are days where you're here and something is not going your way and you're like "Oh this wouldn't happen in my country", but then if you in your home and someone for whatever reason criticizes your new country, you may be able to take a completly different satnd on the exact same point, you know? I've seen myself having conversations, of like taking one argument and taking the counterargument in the exact same context.
Stephanie (23:32):
Fascinating.
Harper (23:33):
Can you give an example of that?
Laurence (23:36):
Yeah, I mean the most obvious example to me, the one that comes to mind is during a conflict when there's an actual, I mean the conflict is permanent, but when there's a flare up or say when we had the war last year, I'll have conversation here where I'm like, this is crazy, or we can't live like this. Then I see my family or my friends back in Paris talk about this. I'm actually gonna defend everything that's happened here and explain our point of view and what it feels like to live it and try to explain to people the benefits of like how Israel reacts or how well protected we are or you know. So I put it in a very positive light for people over there whereas, when I'm here I'm like what crap <laugh>, I don't want to live like this.
Harper (24:38):
I relate to that so much. Yeah. And I think you know from experience when there was the shooting a few months ago in Tel Aviv, how much I felt like there was a need to post and share and say this is what happened, this is the truth considering what the media is presenting and what influencers are posting about this situation and feeling, it's so important to acknowledge that stuff. Whereas if you were talking to people internally within Tel Aviv we're talking about like, why the fuck do we live here and why is this our reality? So I really, really, really relate to that. In talking about, you know, the concept of like potentially fleeing and leaving, you have a track record of breaking away from things in your life. Can you talk a little bit about that and how you navigate that these days, especially in being a mother?
Laurence (25:30):
Well I don't have my escape route anymore <laugh>, so that's been a bit of an adjustment first of all realizing that it was the pattern, that I tend to run away as my coping mechanism. Like I'm done here. Like this is too hard or I like yeah. Um, one of the things that was the hardest for me as a mother I couldn't just didn't have to navigate my emotions. I have to help navigate the emotions of my child. And the whole thing felt way too emotional, too much going on. And one the the things that I kept saying in times of like, you know, when you're tired, sleep deprived and the child had a tantrum or whatever. ANd I speak in the past beacuse I feel a lot more balanced now. But in times where I was like, yeah, I would love to [inaudible) I always used to think and say I want to feel nothing. You know, the rollercoaster of being a parent of a newborn or or a young child. It's like there's always something, you know, it's like either they crying or you are crying or you sleep deprived or you're not functioning properly or um, you know, there's a lot of tension also between husband and wife. You know, who's sure like this, there's so much trial and error of parenthood. You don't really know what are you doing every other job you take, you either be trained for or you know, you know the basics. But parenting is a whole other game. So yeah, there's a lot of tension and a lot of emotion. Yeah, I was like, I'd to feel nothing. My breaking away is to break from that turmoil, the internal turmoil. I 'm super excited by change, excited by new beginnings. And basically what happened when I became a mother and I realized couldn't do that anymore after the mourning period of like this is it and I can't have that freedom that I was used to. There was a lot of friction there internally. I had to find another way to cope. I actually realized that I had to dive in deeper to find that sort of freedom, there's something liberating in acceptance. So actually committing and going deeper into your relationships, it strengthens the relationship.
Stephanie (28:10):
And it sounds like too, the way that you're describing, reframing how you looked at letting go of this physical breakaway to an acceptance of you know, where you're at and some of the challenges. I don't hear you talking about too much judgment of yourself.
Laurence (28:31):
Oh <laugh>.
Stephanie (28:33):
Yes. Is that true?
Laurence (28:35):
Much judgment. So much judgment.
Stephanie (28:37):
What did that look like? Cause you know, as a mother too, being in a community of other mothers, there's a lot of should dos. You know, everything from how you're raising your kids to what they're learning, what they're eating, how well they're sleeping. There's a lot of guidelines all of a sudden that come at you as a mom. So was there ever that judgment you felt or that I've gotta do this the right way and how did you let that go if that was a thing for you?
Laurence (29:09):
Oh um, yeah, I mean we're our own worst judge, right? I judge myself every minute of every day and I think probably that's actually what made me so exhausted. Like even more not just the newborn stage where you don't sleep but also like, you know, the mental state of being constantly like doing something and then feeling guilty about. It's the guilt is, is terrible. I got to the point where I felt guilty all the time and I was like, something's gotta change cause I just can't carry on this. I can't feel like this all the time.
Harper (29:51):
Is part of that why you decided to build your business the way that you did?
Laurence (29:56):
It's part of it. That's something I tried to do as a lifestyle to live fully and I worked really hard at being happier basically for a few years where I was single and I had luxury of time pursuing my own passions. Time is a true luxury.
Laurence (30:19):
I always have this image of me being a tree and I want be really, really grounded and the branches are opening up to the outside and, and leaves and everything are like friends, family, everything that's living in my branches. But like the trunk is heavy, solid. The roots are solid. Cause I felt like for a very, very, very long time in my life I was more like a willow. Mm-hmm <affirmative>, you know, the one that just falls with the wind and just follows everyone's whim and like, oh you want this okay, I'll do this'll. And I was just following what other people wanted and it a very long time to realize what made me joyful and happy and grounded and that was the beginning of the business. I didn't know it at the time, but uh, it's important for me to not just say it but also live it to infuse it in my business and also to help others maybe find the glimpse of that, you know, through the home.
Harper (31:24):
What's so beautiful about that is that I think that you help other people create that tree within their home. I remember when you and I first spoke and you were the second interior designer that I spoke to and I wasn't really feeling the first one. So I was hopeful about the second and the minute you and I got on the phone I was like, okay, done. We must work together. You got it. You got me. You understood my need for feeling grounded and getting settled in a new home, in a new city, in a new country. And you came with a real sense of design where I really knew you understood what you were doing design wise, but the intentionality and creating peace and calm within your home was such a core message through your brand and through everything you said. And I'd love for you to speak a little bit more about how you decided to take that approach where it wasn't just you being fine with your own personal development and doing your own work, but also realizing that you could help people with your design background and with this own personal work you were doing on your own.
Laurence (32:33):
Yeah. Um, I mean design and interiors have been the one red line throughout my entire life. I was four years old when I looking through magazines and my mom was telling me "Oh, you know, this is a job. You can be a stylist, when you grow up." I was like oh it's so pretty. It's been red line my entire life to work within the home and interiors and create those spaces where people feel good and I got to a point where I wanted to take it into a new direction I guess. And yes, because I was growing my own spiritual wellness, I felt like how can I bring my two passions together? You know, we're talking about a time where I was meditating daily and yoga daily and like really spending a lot of time on my own balance. And I was like, how can I bring those two together basically? And then when I decided to launch my own business two years ago, it was just very natural course.
Stephanie (33:46):
How have you found being open and you know, I'm guessing that had a lot to do with the foundations you'd built for yourself. What are the gifts of that openness that you have found for yourself now that you're more settled?
Laurence (34:01):
Oh wow. Gifts are boundless. First of all, there's no other way for me to be than being open <laugh>. It's just completely natural And yeah, it's just, it's brought me so many surprises. I mean I was open to move, and I came here and I met my to meeting new people and I met Harper as a client and she's become one of my closest friends here. It's, I dunno, just why not, Why not be open? You know, it makes room for everything. It makes everything possible.
Stephanie (34:40):
Oh, I love that. So last question. What does the phrase good enough for now mean to you?
Laurence (34:51):
It makes me think of Don Miguel Ruiz who's one of my favorite authors, in the Four Agreements. Do your best. Just do your best. If you do your best you can't be disappointed. So now bit like this.
Stephanie (35:05):
Oh, thank you for that. This has been such a fun conversation. I have got to visit Tel Aviv at the risk of wanting to stay and move my entire family, <laugh> since you guys both just continue to give me reasons.
Laurence (35:18):
Yeah, it can do that. Yeah.
Harper (35:21):
And she's proved that you don't have to be Jewish to live there. Yeah. Perfect. So Lauren, can you tell us for our listeners, where can people find you?
Laurence (35:30):
They can find me on Instagram at Quietly Interiors. They can find me on my website at quiet com.
Harper (35:43):
And just for our listeners to know, she does work with people remotely so you don't have to be in Tel Aviv to work with her. So definitely check out her website for services. Yes, I am plugging you because it's I for people to have access to the amazing work that you do. Laurens, thank you so, so much for chatting with us today. Thank
Laurence (36:02):
You to you both. This was really, really lovely.
Stephanie (36:09):
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Harper (36:18):
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