Focus On Impact, Renew Your Motivation with Megan Flatt
In this episode of Good Enough for Now, we hear from entrepreneur Megan Flatt about how the impact of life stage and external forces shifted her priorities. As a result, she’s transformed her approach to work; choosing to focus on impact over productivity.
Devoted to making entrepreneurship easier, Megan launched Let's Collective, a business growth strategy firm. Tune in to hear more about her new brand, Focus Sessions, a membership and science-backed virtual coworking group for productivity and accountability, and get tips on how to build and sustain your own advisory board.
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three reasons why you should listen to this episode:
Transform the relationship you have between your time and productivity
Optimize networking toward building your own advisory board
Give yourself the liberty of making the decision to not make any decisions
Highlights
At this point in her life, Megan finds herself undergoing a number of shifts; both of her children are embarking on new journeys in schools, her parents are aging, and her business has gone through many evolutions throughout the pandemic.
I really love the type of coaching that allows me to get really up in people's business and literally–– figuratively, that's what I really like to do.
I've got these kids at home, but I also have now aging parents that are gonna need more support. And we get into a pandemic and everything changes…99.5% of my client base were the primary caregivers for their children, and also were working from home.
The pandemic forced the majority of Megan’s client base into the same position she was in. Suddenly, she felt ill-equipped to deliver on her mission.
I had always prided myself that I could help you run your business while also being actively present for your family. And all of a sudden, I found myself in March and April of 2020 struggling with it myself.
By November 2020, Megan had planted the seed for Focus Sessions, a membership-based initiative where group members meet together virtually to hold space for productivity and accountability. Similar to a workout class and led by science-backed research, each co-working session has a different host with different energy and approach.
It's designed to help you be more efficient. It's not about getting more done or hustle culture or anything like that. It's like, let's get in, do the work we need to do, and then get out and do something else.
Entrepreneurs need that focus time because we're wearing all hats. We're pulled in a million directions. We're wearing all the hats in our business--we're wearing all the hats at home.
At this point in her life, Megan’s approach to her time has shifted. Where she used to prioritize productivity, she now prioritizes impact.
Sometimes I will just lay there in bed with my eyes closed and I'll just be like, I have exactly the time I need. I have exactly the time I need, I have exactly the time I need. And I'll just say it over and over again.
What good are you going to do with the limited amount of time you have?... That's how I think about it now instead of like, I have more to do, I have more to do on the list. There's still more on the list. There's still more on the list. And this is how I used to be: Let me eek out a little more time. Let me work on that a little bit after dinner. Let me start a little bit earlier. It's like, I have a container now. What good can I do inside this container? I love that.
This new relationship with time allows Megan to pace herself and encourages her to make decisions that are more closely aligned with her values.
Right now on my phone, I have a note section that says, No decisions until November…I am not allowed to add, change, subtract, burn anything down, until November.
Value-led decision-making and energy-led decision-making is something that I'm really trying to lean into.
At the core of Megan’s success lies her advisory board, a network of genuine friendships with people in similar positions to her. She’s been utilizing the voice messaging app, Voxer, to stay in sustained communication with them.
They've been where I've been, They've seen the ups and downs of this. I'm gonna bounce this idea off them.
We can just [leave voice notes] Voxer back and forth–Hey, I'm thinking about this. What do you think about this idea? Or Hey, how's that thing going that you're doing? What's going on with that? Tell me, you know, how's your kid…that's a great way to build those relationships.
What Good Enough For Now means to megan:
It is so freeing…Good enough for now, to me, is just so empowering because it's telling us that we can take a step forward. We don't have to take 12 steps forward. We can take a step forward and then we can decide what the next right step is in the next right step and, and so on from there.
ABOUT
Megan Flatt is the founder of Let's Collective, a business growth strategy firm devoted to making entrepreneurship easier. Let’s Collective helps its clients make revenue-focused decisions and then create a strategy to get there. Megan recently launched a sister brand, Focus Sessions, providing dedicated, distraction-free virtual coworking to get your most important work done.
Megan is obsessed with lattes, post-it notes and helping women make money. When not doing that, she's hanging with her husband and two kids, probably near the water, in the San Francisco Bay Area. You can catch up with Megan at letcollective.co or focus-sessions.com
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Megan Flatt is the founder of Let's Collective a business growth strategy firm devoted to making entrepreneurship easier. Megan recently launched a sister brand focus sessions providing dedicated distraction free virtual co-working to get your most important work done. Megan is obsessed with lattes post-it notes and helping women make money. I can get behind that when not doing that. She's hanging with her husband and two kids probably near the water in the San Francisco Bay area.
Harper (03:19):
Welcome, Megan. So happy to have you here today.
Megan (03:22):
Oh my goodness, thank you both so much for having me. I'm excited for this
Stephanie (03:26):
As a former San Franciscan and uh, Marin County lover. I'm glad to have a west on the on the pod, so thank you for making time.
Harper (03:36):
It really is everything to Steph. Like she lights up when people bring up San Francisco.
Megan (03:42):
Oh, good.
Stephanie (03:43):
<laugh>. Anyway,
Harper (03:45):
So tell us where you are in your life right now.
Megan (03:49):
Whew. Well, I'm Megan. I'm a business growth strategist. I'm a mom, I'm a wife, you know, a sister, a daughter, all of those things. And I feel like all of those roles are calling a lot of me right now. My kids both just started the school year, one starting middle school, one starting high school. So new journeys for both of them. My business has gone through shifts and evolutions and ups and downs and my partnership, you know, the last three years of a pandemic have been challenging for all of us. So there's things there and you know, my parents are getting older and so again, over the last three or four years there's been this shift. I'm the oldest daughter and so there's this shift of roles within that unit. So yeah, when I think about it that way, <laugh>, lots of really exciting positive changes and ones that are like, Whoa, okay, here we are.
Stephanie (04:51):
Yeah, it kind of makes you take a step back, right?
Megan (04:54):
Yeah. And just kind of analyze things. We've been kind of talking about that. I think that's been a theme for me and definitely my clients. It's so interesting. Um, you know, I'm sure for the two of you just even interviewing podcast guests, it's like I've kind of got these different lenses where I get to look into a little pulse of what we're all kind of going through. And I think there is this kind of collective, like what's next? What is going to happen next? Good, bad, <laugh>, ugly, all of the things. <laugh>,
Harper (05:25):
It's interesting because when I think about how I first discovered you, I listened to you on a podcast and I was taking notes the whole time, and that does not happen often. And I basically took notes for myself and to be able to send you a dm and here all the things that you said that I love about you and how much I relate, and thank you for saying all of this. And you were so honest, and that was one of the many reasons why we wanted to bring you on the show today, because you don't hold back in sharing what's going on in your life and your business, the highs and the lows. Can you tell us about the work you do and how you got to the point that you're at now?
Megan (06:03):
Yeah, I love coaching. I love business coaching, and I really love the type of coaching that allows me to get really up in people's business. And literally figuratively, that's what I really like to do. And so if we rewind back to 20 16, 17, I mean, honestly, I started doing masterminds back in 2014, and I got to about 20 16, 20 17, and I kind of maxed out a little bit on like, and I'm using like the air quotes here, right on like the scalability because I was still kind of one person. So at the time, and maybe now too, there was this push to kind of productize coaching and kind of commoditize coaching. And so I was like, Okay, well that's what I have to do if I wanna scale, if I wanna grow, I've gotta turn my coaching into a product. And I didn't really wanna do that.
Megan (06:58):
And it's a really great business model, It's a really great business model and it really works for a lot of people. And I've been in programs as a participant where it works and you know, I've seen other people do, but what I realized is it wasn't totally working for me. So now fast forward to about 2019, and I'm running these masterminds, these higher end masterminds, I've switched to year long masterminds where I get to work with people over the course of a whole year and really get into their businesses, make changes, see the effects of those changes, make changes again. And I had a business mentor in 2019 that said to me, Well, you're really just running a practice, not a business. And I remember being so offended and like, Stephanie, like your face, right? Like that was what <laugh> like, I'm not running a business.
Megan (07:46):
How dare you, How dare you. Yeah. But his whole point was, no matter how much you charge, no matter how much you raise your rates, no matter how much you try to like make this a group program, all those things, at the end of the day, I was still trading time for money and it looked a little different. And sometimes it was me with multiple people and it was still time for money. So that was another seed planted in my head. Also, in 2019, both of my parents had medical, you know, issues that came up separate times. And that was when I kind of realized like, okay, there's another shift that we're making, like the whole sandwich generation where I've got these kids at home, but I also have now aging parents that are gonna need more support. And then we get into a pandemic.
Megan (08:31):
We get into a pandemic, and everything changes. My kids are now home and 99.5% of my client base were the primary caregivers for their children, and also were working from home. So what happened to the lot of us was all of a sudden it was like, well, we're already home and if the kids are gonna be home from school for two weeks, remember when we thought it was gonna be two weeks that it makes the most sense for my client base to be the one that was taking care of the kids. And I had always prided myself that I could help you run your business while also being actively present for your family. And all of a sudden I found myself in March and April of 2020 struggling with it myself. Then that self doubt starts to creep in. Like, who am I to tell these people how to run a business and juggle their kids when I'm not doing it very well? Because none of us were like, all of a sudden, it's not even homeschooling your kids. Like at least you can prepare for that. It's just like, you know, oh wait, and you can't go out and you can't touch your groceries and you can't get your mail. You know, in the early, early days when we just didn't know any of that. And so then all of a sudden I was like, Well, I can't business coach these people because I no longer know what I'm doing.
Stephanie (09:50):
You know, you described your business and how you were really deep in with your clients, right? Yeah. And then we all got slapped in the face and had no time to adapt. And here you're with them too. What came to mind first for you? You know, you were in this place of someone telling you, Oh, it's a practice, not a business, and now you're stunned. So what comes up first,
Megan (10:15):
I'll tell you exactly, like again, in the spirit of being vulnerable, in the spirit of being honest, I mean, I remember the dates, right? It was Friday, March 12th that we realized we were going on lockdown. And I was in the middle of a mastermind. I can't remember how many people I had at that point, but let's say I had 20 people in my mastermind. At that point on Saturday, one person from my group reached out to me in a total panic and said, I have to drop out of the group. I can't afford to make these payments anymore because my business is going to tank. I have an in-person business and it's going to tank, and I have to get out of this mastermind. And instead of me saying, Let me help you, let me coach you through this. We'll do what we need to do if we need to.
Megan (11:01):
This is literally 12 hours after the lockdown started, right? If we need to pause your payment, we will. We'll work this out. I could have said all of those things, but I didn't. I was like, Yeah, you're right. Cancel. Here's your money. You're right. Like, because I was in that panic too, and one person <laugh> asked to get out of the mastermind and I went, Well, there it goes down the drain, you know, no one's gonna wanna work with me. Everyone else is gonna wanna cancel. And so I like to kind of joke, but I feel like I kind of sabotaged my own business. No one else quit. But as those people's years, everyone was on like kind of rolling admissions. So people's years ended at different times as people's years ended. I wasn't encouraging them to stay, I wasn't seeking new clients because I was just like, well, and I, I had this sense like, Oh, everyone's doing me a favor.
Megan (11:58):
Like you would continue to pay someone, you know, thousands of dollars like as a favor, right? But I did. I just like, I got so in my head about it. And the crazy thing was we got to fall of 2020 and I, all of a sudden I had this little core group of people that were like, What are we gonna do next? What's the next mastermind? What can we keep doing? And so I kind of reconfigured, I had this small group, and always in my mastermind since 2014, because we were all solopreneurs, we were all working from home way back before a pandemic. We had always done these sessions in our masterminds that we called virtual co-working, where we would set, you know, one day a week where everyone would just get on Zoom and work on the things that we were talking about in all of our other sessions.
Megan (12:47):
And so, you know, again, fast forward to about November of 2020, a friend of mine sent me a link to another company that was doing this like Virtual coworking and sent me a link and she said, Oh, this is like what you do in your masterminds. And I don't know, I mean, any entrepreneur listening to this will know I was buying URLs instantly. Instantly. I was just like, Oh my gosh, I wanna do this. This is so cool. You know? So I'm like, I'm buying URLs. I'm like, We're gonna do this. And so that was the seed of what would become focus sessions and you know, knowing that my clients had needed that focus time, the entrepreneurs need that focus time because we're wearing all the hats. Were pulled in a million directions. Were wearing all the hats in our business. Were wearing all the hats at home, were wearing all the hats.
Megan (13:37):
And you know, at this point in the end of 2020, there was so much social justice movements going on. There was so much community involvement going on. We were being asked, Is it safe to go into the grocery store? How do I feel about racial justice? You know, there was so many questions that were being asked that I knew we needed this place, that we could have some distraction free focus time. And so that became Focus sessions. And how does focus sessions work? So focus Sessions, we like to say it's like a gym, but for productivity. So it's membership based. So we really wanted it to be something that people would do in addition to whatever else they were doing. It was really important for me that everything be very science backed. So I actually brought on one of my former clients who had a background, She's a lawyer, she had a background in mediation, then she became a life coach.
Megan (14:30):
She also studies neuroscience. And so I knew that she was the perfect person to kind of bring on board to help me build focus sessions, because we wanted to make sure we were building it from a scientific proven place. So we have these 90 minute sessions, they're hosted. So it's like going to a yoga class or a plots class where all of the hosts do exactly the same. We call it the focus flow. And that's what we've designed using neuroscience, using things borrowed from the neuro divergent community. Like we've used all these techniques. We have an eight minute focus flow that every single host starts with. But just like your favorite, you know, yoga instructor. Each host kind of brings their own flare, their own angle to it. And the whole, those first eight minutes are designed to get you into that focus state. And then you have about, you know, whatever's left over 83 minutes to focus on your most important work.
Megan (15:23):
And you have some accountability. We declare what you're working on at the beginning of the session, and then everyone gets to work. And at the end of the session you celebrate what you've accomplished. And no one wants to say like, Oh, I just sat and scrolled social media for the last hour <laugh>. So it helps hold you accountable. Plus it gives you that container. It's like, Okay, I can get this thing done. You know, there's the, is it a Parkinson's law that the time you need expands to the time you have, right? So you say, Okay, I'm gonna spend the next 90 minutes writing this sales page, or I'm gonna spend the next 90 minutes working on a chapter of my memoir. Then you get it done and then you stop. And then you move on to, you know, the next thing. So that's what focus sessions is. It's designed to help you be more efficient. It's not about getting more done or hustle culture, anything like that. It's like, let's get in, do the work we need to do and then get out and do something else.
Harper (16:13):
I love the concept so much. Obviously that's part of why I reached out to you initially. And I think about personally being someone who's always prided myself on being a multitasker, and that's not really a, And I've realized that definitely throughout the how much that's not really a good thing to pride myself on cause it doesn't benefit anybody. I wanna go back to something that you talked about earlier about choosing to not productize your business. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Because I think it's such a unique thing and I really, really relate to it. And it's something I have chosen not to do with my business as well, even though all of my competitors were doing it. How do you not let your competitors and the media and outside sources get in the way of you running your business the way that you wanna run it? What everyone else is saying, This is the way to do it.
Megan (17:06):
Yeah, it's really, really hard. So honestly, like the first thing that popped into my mind is like, I have to delete social media off my phone sometimes. And I have to kind of take these breaks because we know that social media, we all kind of hear, you know, don't compare your life to someone else's highlight real kind of thing. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But I found myself doing that with not necessarily people's vacations or people's houses or whatever the thing on social media is, but I found myself like, Oh my God, they're running a webinar. I should run a webinar. Oh my God, that person's launching this. Oh, I should launch. You know, I, I found myself doing it with business or even just like, Oh, I should be dancing on TikTok or I should be doing this, I should be doing that. Like that I found myself just looking at everyone else's business.
Megan (17:48):
Cause I think there's this thing, And tell me if the two of you agree, like one of the things that I've noticed again for myself, for my clients is when you're starting a business, yeah, there's a lot of different ways you can start a business, but it's a little more systematic. There's a little bit more of a step by step process that you need to follow to start a business. Once you're running a successful business, there are a million ways to run a successful business that will all work. Is a webinar a great idea? Yes. Is dancing on TikTok a great idea? Yes. Is productizing Harper shaking her head, but no. I mean, but clearly people are buying homes because they're dancing on TikTok. So clearly it works for some people, you know? And is productizing your coaching, Can that work? Yes. Can. Turning your signature methodology into a course work?
Megan (18:41):
Yes. So I find that you're not on this path anymore. It's kind of this like wide open. Like you can go in any direction. Sometimes that's even harder. And again, that's what I mean by like you get on social media or if you're, you know, getting people's email newsletters or whatever it is, you're like, Oh, well this person is doing this thing. Or you start to be like, Oh, I should have thought of that, or I should have launched that. Or they are doing this. You know? So I think that can be really challenging. So I think you have to remove yourself from the situation, you know, whether that's taking a break from social media or deleting the emails in your inbox. I think you have to be really clear on what your plan is, even if it's for a short amount of time. Even if it's just like right now on my phone, I have a note section that says, No decisions until November. And it's basically exactly that. Yeah, it's exactly that. It's like, I am not allowed to add, change, subtract, burn anything down until November <laugh>. That's brilliant.
Stephanie (19:40):
It's love that. Setting some rules. I'm opening up my phone and putting the same thing on it. I like, Thank you for that idea. Yes.
Megan (19:48):
And then what I'm doing is I have a little note section on my phone where when that idea comes up that I wanna add change, burn down, start doing, stop doing, I just add it to that list, just add it to the list. And then in November, and I, November is completely arbitrary. I don't know why I picked November, but you know, in November, theoretically I can go look at that list and be like, Oh yeah, you know, And so I'm just making observations, you know, like, oh, I liked the way that felt. I didn't like the way that felt. Oh, so and so's doing this. That's interesting. And it just goes on the list. I'm an Enneagram three, like there's not this sense, like I have to take action on it right now. You know, it's like, nope. Just put it on the list.
Stephanie (20:33):
I'm wondering, underneath some of your decision making or maybe your decision not to make decisions, <laugh>, what resources do you use either internally or externally to help you simplify? Because, you know, maybe you've always been this person, but it seems like this may be a new place of arrival for you. So I'm just curious if you could tell us more
Megan (20:54):
About that. Yeah, you know, I think it's so interesting, right? Because we don't need to reinvent the wheel. We don't need to come up with everything ourselves. So there is this level of like learning and understanding and getting support and getting help and learning from our own mistakes, other people's mistakes, learning best practices. But it really is being able to like tease apart where am I learning a best practice for a decision that I've already made? And where am I letting everything that everyone else is doing influence my decision making? Like, you know, I was shaking my head when you were saying maybe you've always been like this, because I think it's just human nature to kind of fall into that other camp where it's like, well that person's doing that, so that must be successful, so maybe I should be doing that. And so I think that it sounds a little cheesy or like esoteric, but like really this kind of value led decision making and energy led decision making is something that I'm really trying to lean into.
Megan (22:04):
And I'm lucky I have someone on my team who is really all about that. And so she is kind of that little, you know, voice on my shoulder too that helps me make those decisions. I think it's really, really important. I like to call it our board of advisors. I think it's really important for entrepreneurs, especially solopreneurs, to have kind of a board of advisors and they're your business friends, they're your business friends, but that you kind of pre-identify as like, this is the person that I wanna talk to about this. This is the person who's in a similar industry as me. This is the person that's in a similar life position to me. This is a person that's a little bit ahead of where I am. You know, so kind of identifying those people. So I think that's really important. And then kind of back to really following my energy.
Megan (22:53):
And for me, because again, I'm type A, I'm a planner, I'm an Enneagram three, I'm all of those things. So for me, it starts with my schedule. It starts with like my literal calendar setting work hours and creating my own containers. And then really asking myself what do I want that to look like? I remember it's like on Oprah, literally when I was a teenager about this home organizer. And it was like the idea of organizing your home in a way that you use your home. And so I, I totally remember the example. She's like, If you have a big stack of books sitting next to your chair, don't think that you're gonna start putting those books away on a shelf. She's like, Put a basket next to your chair and put the books in. You know, now the books, your like natural habit is organized.
Megan (23:43):
And I really think about that with my, my own schedule. You know, my husband also works for himself, he has his own business. He can set his own hours. And so he's always kind of giving me, not giving me a hard time, but he's like, I like to start work really early. In fact, a couple days a week I get out and let him get the kids off to school and I get out super early. Now he views that as kind of that workaholic, like, oh I've, I've got a, So I took that information cuz he likes to, you know, stay in his pajamas, get the kids out the door, then he goes, takes the dog for a walk and listens to a podcast. And then he comes back and he makes breakfast and then he takes a shower and he goes into work at like 10.
Megan (24:23):
And I thought, oh, I'm a workaholic because I like to start work at seven. But what I realized is I just like to stop work at two o'clock. <laugh>, I wanna be, I wanna take the dog for a walk and whatever like at two o'clock, you know? So it was that too. It was like just getting really honest with like, hey, this is how I like to work. This is when I have the energy, this is how I like to structure. I like to have days that I have calls, I like to have days that I have no calls. You know, like, so kind of deciding like it's the basket next to my chair, you know, instead of like, Oh, an entrepreneur who's in charge of her own schedule shouldn't start work until 10:00 AM and should take Fridays off. You know, like that doesn't have to be how it is.
Megan (25:02):
So lately I've been taking Wednesdays off and so once I had a container, then I started deciding like, okay, I heard someone say, what good are you going to do with the limited amount of time you have? And I loved that. And so that's how I think about it now instead of like, I have more to do, I have more to do. There's still more on the list. There's still more on the list. And this is how I used to be, Let me eek out a little more time. Let me work on that a little bit after dinner. Let me start a little bit earlier. It's like, I have a container now. What good can I do inside this container?
Stephanie (25:36):
I
Megan (25:37):
Love that. And it's not easy and I don't always do it. Well.
Stephanie (25:40):
Yeah, thank you for saying that because I think sometimes we share these nuggets of advice with ourselves, with our friends, and it just seems like, oh, I've just figured this all out and waved my magic wand and it's not easy. And I'm sure you know your type A planner personality, I'm sure that sometimes too, there's inertia of just doing that's still calls to you. And what else in those moments, you've got your container, you've figured it out, all goes to plan, never
Megan (26:16):
<laugh>, never. Mm-hmm
Stephanie (26:17):
<affirmative>. So what else are you finding now with your energy practice and as you're thinking about how to stop yourself from maybe those habits?
Megan (26:29):
Mm-hmm. <affirmative>,
Stephanie (26:30):
What else comes to mind for you?
Megan (26:32):
Well, I have two things. So the first is you're talking about how it's not easy. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I mean, I struggle with this literally on a pretty much daily basis. And so mantras, and it's not even a mantra. It's like I will drown out my own inner voice by just saying something over and over again. And I don't know if that makes me crazy or if, but you know, a lot of times I'll wake up three in the morning, four morning, five in the morning, and then your brain starts to go like, Oh, you've gotta do this. What about this? What about this? So I will literally just start telling myself something. So my favorite one is I have exactly the time I need. So sometimes I will just lay there in bed with my eyes closed and I'll just be like, I have exactly the time I need. I have exactly the time I need. I have exactly the time I need. And I'll just say it over and over again. You know? Or I'll say, You're doing great. What's the, you know, Stuart Smiley from Saturday Night Live. I'm totally dating myself, right? I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, I'm smart enough.
Stephanie (27:30):
People really like me
Megan (27:31):
<laugh>, but I'll do that. I will lay there. And when that voice inside my head is like, This isn't working, this thing's failing, you should be working harder. You should have done it this way. What about this? I'm doing good work. I'm doing good work. I'm putting good work into the world, I'm doing good work. This is gonna work out. I'm doing good work. And I literally just say it over and over again until I can like get through that loop.
Harper (27:52):
I love that. And it's making me wanna put a PostIt of both of those phrases. So thank you. You mentioned this concept of the board of advisors, which I love, and I feel like I on officially have something similar. I'm wondering if you can provide some tips or suggestions on how people can build that for themselves. Because I think there's a lot of stigma around the concept of picking someone's brain and people don't wanna to hear that. And they don't wanna get an email that says, Can I pick your brain? So how do you decide who you approach? You acknowledge that there are people already in your world, but how do you do it where you're likely benefiting from it more than they're,
Megan (28:33):
Yeah, I'm an introvert, which people are kind of surprised about sometimes, but I really, really am. And so networking is not enjoyable for me. Going to like big events where there's not a purpose, like I like going to like an event where we're gonna learn something or, but like going to like, kind of like a networking event where you're just supposed to kinda mill around is very uncomfortable for me. But one of the things that I've always heard about networking, this idea of like, what can you do for the other person? And so I use that same mantra or that same kind of adage, but like in a very genuine way with my own friends and advisory board. And this is where social media can work really well. It can be as simple as just DMing someone. Now I'm not talking about like someone that's like light years away from you, but obviously it helps if there's some connection or like, Hey, we were both at this event, or hey, we both know this person.
Megan (29:33):
Like DMing, Hey, I saw that you're doing this webinar. That sounds really fascinating. I'd love to share it. You know, so sharing someone's webinar on social media or reaching out and just seeing, Hey, you know what? I should tell you about this great podcast that I was on. You would be a great guest. I'm gonna introduce you to Harper and Stephanie. You know, so like where can you kind of be of service to them? That is just a really great place to start. We kind of joke, there's a group of friends and we used to call ourselves the $20,000 friends <laugh> because like we all met in a program we all met through paying for coaching. But like that's been one of the greatest places that I've met people is in other programs that I've been in. And I see that with the women in my own mastermind where they become good friends.
Megan (30:18):
I always get so excited when I see on social media, like, oh my gosh, those two people are meeting up in real life. And they met in my program. So that's been a really great way to meet people. I also love the app Voxer. This is my go to because basically for anyone who doesn't know, it's like a voice messaging app. And you can do this through text messaging and you can do this through WhatsApp and you know, all the other places. But I love Voxer because you can leave someone a 32nd Voxer and they can get back to you 24 hours later and they can get back to you. My friend Leah and I, I'm always boxing her when I'm driving to pick up my kids and she's always boxing me back when she's walking the dog. We do try to have Zoom calls and kind of have some face to face, but it's so much easier for us to communicate when it's not like, Oh, when does our schedule perfectly line up with different time zones and different schedules? When does it line up for us to like have a Zoom call? We can just voxer back and forth, Hey, I'm thinking about this. What do you think about this idea? Or Hey, how's that thing going that you're doing? What's going on with that? You know? So that's a great way to build those relationships as well.
Stephanie (31:25):
I'm so glad you brought that up. Especially because it's asynchronous, right? Yeah. So it's not at the same time, you know, I have one friend who I think should have had the idea for Voxer, she would've made millions of dollars because she has been leaving me voice notes. Yeah. For years. Yeah. And there is something so visceral and warm about a voice. Yeah. You compared to you're hearing their voice a text, right? Yeah. You're hearing the intonations, you're hearing the care, you're hearing the support. That's such a great tip. I love that.
Harper (31:57):
I had a client a few years ago who was debating joining a mastermind, some sort of program that had a hight price to it, and she messaged the organizer of it with a bunch of questions and a bunch of concerns why she wasn't pulling the trigger. And the person ended up sending her a video note back, and my client was beyond, beyond thrilled to get this personal attention. This person took the time to record a video, answering all the questions, giving her clarity on why it was worth the investment, and that right there, whatever the answers were, sold her on this person. And that's just personal touch. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> that goes so far.
Megan (32:41):
Absolutely. Absolutely. And we're so lucky that we've got this ability that the three of us are in, you know, three different locations and three different time zones, and we're so lucky to have this ability, but I think just humans, even introverts, I think we crave that human to human connection, whether that's voice or video or you know, something that just feels a little more tangible.
Stephanie (33:03):
100% agree with you on that. I think it makes all the difference. Megan, this conversation has been so great and I'm so glad that we've got to hear your wisdom and how you've shared your journey and thinking about where you are now in your life and all of these examples you've shared. The title of our podcast is good enough for now. So when you hear that phrase, what does that evoke for you?
Megan (33:31):
I mean, it is so freeing. When you all first emailed me with this concept, I was just like, Oh, thank God. Because I think we share our highlight reel and we go on podcasts and we're like, Here's all the ways that I'm doing great. Don't you wanna work with me? Because I can teach you all of these great things, right? So we do that and we post on social media and we, you know, all the things. And so I think this idea of like, good enough for now, it's two things. It's not just good enough, like, oh, this is fine, but it's good enough for now. And I always talk to my clients about version 1.0. Clarity comes through action. Like it's good enough for now. And then you learn and you iterate and you improve, and you talk to people and you test it out and you say, Okay, I wanna try to launch these things.
Megan (34:21):
Ooh, I don't know if I like that, or I wanna mark it this way. Ooh, I'm not sure if that worked for me. And I think sometimes we try to think our way into clarity, and you have to be willing to leap and to fail and to get angry and sad and frustrated and excited and all of those other things. So good enough for now, to me is just so empowering because it's telling us that we can take a step forward. We don't have to take 12 steps forward. We can take a step forward and then we can decide what the next right step is in the next right step and so on from there.
Harper (34:56):
So good. Thank you so much, Megan. Where can people find you sign up for focus sessions and work with you one on one or through your masterminds?
Megan (35:05):
Absolutely. So Focus Sessions is Focus sessions.com and like I said, we have 16 focus sessions a week. It's a membership based program. You can cancel any time. We wanna make it super easy and I'd love to give you a coupon code if you use Focus and the number seven. So Focus seven, you can actually get a week free trial of focus sessions. So come check it out, come to a week of sessions, see how it works for you, meet some of the different hosts. Just like I said, it's like going to a yoga class. You know, you're gonna have hosts that you gel with and connect with. We have four times a day, so there's definitely gonna be a time that works for you. So come try it out. You can follow Focus sessions on Instagram. You can also follow me on Instagram at Megan Flat and send me a dm. My website is Let's collective.co, but I'll admit that's not very updated. So just send me a DM on Instagram. If you're interested in knowing more, we can schedule a call to talk about my coaching as well.
Stephanie (36:01):
Fantastic. We'll include all the links in the show notes as well so people can find you. Thanks me.
Megan (36:06):
Thank you to the two of you for doing this and for getting these messages and voices out there. I think it's really needed. So thank you for hosting this.
Stephanie (36:21):
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